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Verizon Implies Netflix Is The Source Of Frustration For Lousy Streaming Speed

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    Verizon implies Netflix is the 'source of frustration' for lousy streaming speeds | The Verge (click for full article)

    by Chris Welch - Feb. 10, 2014

    -- Verizon's average Netflix speeds have dropped considerably in recent months, adding to concerns that the FiOS provider may intentionally be slowing connections to the streaming video service. In its monthly grading of ISPs, Netflix says that Verizon fell to an average of 1.82Mbps in January. That's down from 2.2Mbps in October, and has resulted in Verizon dropping from sixth to seventh place in Netflix's overall ISP ranking. (Google Fiber still leads the competition, delivering average speeds of 3.78Mbps.) Other ISPs have also been on a downward slope; Comcast now averages just 1.51Mbps.


    Internet providers like Verizon are under close scrutiny after the FCC's net neutrality rules were largely tossed out by a judge last month. That ruling gave ISPs free rein to eventually charge companies like Netflix to speed up their connection to customers.


    Earlier this month, David Raphael published a blog post that seemingly confirmed FiOS has been limiting bandwidth to Netflix - or "throttling" its streaming services. But as Ars Technica quickly pointed out, the low-level customer support representative Raphael spoke with was likely just incorrect. And the evidence he produced to illustrate the slowdown didn't conclusively point to Netflix throttling. In response to the claims, Verizon said it treats "all traffic equally."


    Verizon continues to insist its internet services "deliver a pristine user experience to our customers at any time of day on every day of the week." In a statement to Ars Technica, the company went even further, shifting blame for any Netflix streaming woes that customers are experiencing back to Netflix itself. Verizon said:


    Read more at: http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/10/5...x-is-source-of-frustration-for-slow-streaming
     
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    Actually these problems all started under the net neutrality laws because NetFlix's peer was in violation of the accepted peering with Verizon. They were sending way more data in to Verizon's network than they were accepting, and when that happens - they're supposed to pay and refused.

    Netflix instead offered to put servers inside of Verizon's network, which Verizon refused to do because why should they grant free hosting to Netflix?

    With the net neutrality laws tossed and assuming Netflix refuses to budge, Verizon could potentially offer special tiers with better streaming performance to their customers who complain about the lousy Netflix performance.

    One way or another the final result is likely to be ... we pay more.
     
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    I had never seen this explanation and yes it appears the $8/month Netflix unlimited streaming can't go on much longer unless internet access will cost more.
     
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    I don't think the Net Neutrality will be tossed aside permanently. Already some senators are urging the FCC chairman to reconstruct new Net Neutrality provisions - and the FCC chairman in turn said that he's re-working a new Net Neutrality solution to present to the court. It's my understanding that the court in DC that overturned the Net Neutrality said they believe in Net Neutrality in principle - but didn't like how the current rules were worded. So the judges told the relevant parties to re-work the Net Neutrality rules and present them with a new draft.

    See the first 2 posts on this page:

    http://www.googletvforum.org/forum/...ternet-order-net-neutrality-threatened-3.html
     
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    It's true that net neutrality could certainly make a come back if the FCC decides to exert their authority. Alas, that still won't solve the dispute between Netflix and the Internet providers who are primarily content providers themselves and hate the idea of their networks being used to *freely* deliver content that competes with their products.

    The absence of net neutrality just means Verizon and the other providers can come up with some new ways to sell and tier their services.
     
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