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  1. revue5

    revue5 Well-Known Member

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    Here're some key specs for Sony NSZ-GS7 - Set-top box,

    Processor: dual-core Marvell 1.2Ghz chip
    Memory: 1GB RAM + 8GB Flash
    A universal remote control w/ back-lit QWERTY keyboard & 3-Axis motion sensor for gaming: included

    24p True Cinema: supported
    Sony Entertainment Network: supported
    3D - Streaming/ Video(from camcorder)/ Photo: supported

    Dolby Digital Plus Decode-ability: supported
    Dolby Digital Plus bit-stream : supported
    Dolby digital to 5.1ch LPCM : supported
    Dolby downmix to 2ch LPCM : supported

    LPCM 2ch/ 6ch/ 8ch: supported

    DLNA (DMP) : supported
    2 USB ports/ FAT32/NTFS: supported

    Auto Power Off (Auto Stand-by): supported
    Power: 21W / Less than 0.5W/ 60Hz / AC 120V
    Energy Star Compliant: Yes

    HDMI-CEC: supported
    Video Noise Reduction: supported
    Parental Control: supported
    Individual Speaker Setting: supported

    Speaker (Bluetooth): Optional
    OnLive Gaming Controller/ USB dongle: Optional


    Supported Video formats: See this link
    Supported Media /Music formats: See this link
    Supported Photo formats : See this link




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    revue5 Well-Known Member

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    This second generation Sony GTV box (needs a nickname) specs & accessories options plus OnLive support seems to but it closer to PS3 with less noise (silent) & power consumption (21W / Less than 0.5W). The streaming gap won't last once Google TV adds new Apps like Amazon, Vudu , Hulu &... . so I'm wondering if PS3 & xbox360 users are taking notes?
     
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    question will you need a sony phone to access sony google tv?
     
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    Interesting that the new Sony box uses 21 watts of power when in use - which is more than the Logitech Revue uses when in use. However the new Sony box will have power management and only uses 0.5 watts when in standby mode. With the Revue there is no standby power-saving mode and no way to turn it off (without unplugging it). That was a limitation of the Intel Atom CE 4150 chip. I believe the Revue uses approx. 14-18 watts when in use - and about 12 watts when not in use. So the power management (and savings) should be better with the new Sony box and the Marvell 1500 chip.
     
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    revue5 Well-Known Member

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    NO. it comes with its own remote that is included (see video) or you can use Android smart phone (w/an App) and probably will be more options (we'll soon find out).




    True.
    Must be a coincident, you mentioned it (Power consumption) while I was calculating it - see Sony/Revue comparison below.
     
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    From what I could gather so far for Sony NSZ-GS7,

    Key differences
    Sony NSZ-GS7
    Logitech Revue
    Processor
    Dual-core Marvell 1.2Ghz
    Single-core Intel Atom 1.2GHz
    Memory
    1GB RAM + 8GB Flash1GB



    A universal remote control
    with
    trackpad, back-lit QWERTY keyboard
    & 3 Axis motion sensor for gaming
    (Bluetooth)

    Included
    Keyboard Controller
    (Logitech Wireless Unifying)
    Remote control Voice command
    Supported
    NOT
    Harmony IR Remote (IR URC)NOTSupported
    24p True Cinema
    Supported
    NOT
    3D Streaming
    3D Video (from camcorder)
    3D Photo
    Supported
    Supported (HDMI)
    Supported (update)
    Supported
    NOT
    NOT



    Sony Entertainment Network

    OnLive (Cloud streaming game service)

    Netflix

    Amazon

    VUDU
    Supported

    not confirmed

    Supported (native App)

    Supported (web App)

    NOT
    NOT

    NOT

    Supported (native App)

    Supported (web App)

    NOT



    Power Off / Stand-by

    Auto Power Off (Auto Stand-by)

    Quick Power "On" (Quick Start)

    Energy Star Compliant
    Supported

    Supported

    Supported

    Supported
    ON (always)

    NOT

    Supported (always ON)

    NOT
    Power consumption21W (in operation)
    0.5W (in Standby)
    13W (in operation)
    12W (Idle)



    CPU Cooling
    Fan-less (heat-sink)
    Fan






    HDMI-CEC
    Supported
    NOT
    BRAVIA Sync
    Supported
    NOT



    Video Noise Reduction
    Supported
    NOT
    IP Content Noise Reduction (update)
    Supported
    NOT
    Individual Speaker Setting
    Supported
    NOT
    Multiple Language Display
    Supported
    NOT
    Parental Control
    Supported
    NOT



    Dolby Digital Plus bit-stream
    Supported
    NOT
    Dolby down-mix to 2ch LPCM
    Supported
    NOT
    Dolby Digital bit-stream
    Via HDMI & Optical
    Via Optical Only



    Speaker (Bluetooth)
    Optional
    NOT
    OnLive Gaming Controller/USB dongle
    Optional
    NOT



    Instruction Manual (pdf)
    Included
    On-line help
    Updates / Current Firmware
    ICS (likely) / 3.2
    ICS (not expected) / 3.2



    MPEG-2
    Supported
    NOT
    DTS
    NOT (HDMI-in pass through: yes)NOT



    Supported Video format
    See this link
    See this link
    Supported Media - Music
    See this linkSee this link


    Note: Please consider this comparison list obsolete if its not updated within a reasonable time frame.


    VIZIO Co-Star Vs Logitech Revue - click here....
     
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    Great start, thanks. I couldn't find confirmation that the Sony handles DTS but I had assumed it would. A third column for the Vizio VP430 would be worth adding in the future.
     
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    From what I could gather so far for Sony NSZ-GS7,



    Key differencesSony NSZ-GS7Sony NSZ-GT1
    Processor
    Dual-core Marvell 1.2GhzSingle-core Intel Atom 1.2GHz or (1.7GHz)



    A universal remote control
    with trackpad
    , back-lit QWERTY keyboard
    & 3 Axis motion sensor for gaming
    (Bluetooth)

    IncludedHandheld keypad with mouse
    (Wireless RF)
    Remote control Voice commandNOTNOT
    built-in IR Blaster
    IR blaster port
    Supported
    1
    NOT
    1
    Harmony IR Remote (IR URC)NOTNOT
    3D Streaming
    3D Video (from camcorder)
    3D Photo
    Supported
    Supported (HDMI)
    Supported (update)
    Supported
    NOT
    NOT
    Sony Entertainment Network

    OnLive (Cloud streaming game service)

    Netflix

    Amazon

    VUDU
    Supported

    not confirmed

    Supported (native App)

    Supported (web App)

    NOT
    NOT

    NOT

    Supported (native App)

    Supported (web App)

    NOT



    Auto Power Off (Auto Stand-by)

    Quick Power "On" (Quick Start)

    Energy Star Compliant
    Supported

    Supported

    Supported
    Supported

    Supported

    NOT
    Power consumption21W (in operation)
    0.5W (in Standby)
    43W (in operation)
    0.9W (in Standby)
    CPU CoolingFan-less (heat-sink)Fan
    IP Content Noise Reduction (update)SupportedNOT
    Individual Speaker SettingSupportedNOT
    Multiple Language DisplaySupportedNOT
    Parental ControlSupportedNOT



    BD-PlayerNOTSupported
    USB Port24



    Speaker (Bluetooth)OptionalNOT
    OnLive Gaming Controller/USB dongleOptionalNOT



    Updates / Current FirmwareICS (likely) / 3.2ICS (unknown) / 3.2

    MPEG-2

    DTS


    Supported

    NOT (HDMI-in pass through: yes)


    NOT

    Supported
    Supported Video formatSee this linkSee this link
    Supported Media - MusicSee this linkSee this link





    Note: Please consider this comparison list obsolete if its not updated within a reasonable time frame.



    VIZIO Co-Star Vs Logitech Revue - click here....


     
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    Single-core Intel Atom 1.2GHz or (1.7GHz)? Did that happen, the later Sony production runs switched to the Intel Atom CE4100, 1.2GHz chip from the CE4170 1.7GHz chip? Of course having 4 USB ports is nice but I have never needed more than 2.
     
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    Also, I believe there is one small difference I don't see noted. My NSZ-GT1 came with an IR blaster with two transmitters which can be placed about 4 feet apart. I don't know if that was an accessory that might have varied by production run.
     
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    The previous Sony box was 1.7ghz. The revue was 1.2 ghz. Blu Ray support was suspected for the difference(need). Mine came with the blasters too.

    Also, I'm guessing we can't use the new remotes on the old boxes since they don't support bluetooth. :(
     
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    Good point (thanks - edited here).

    That's because Sony's NSZ-GS7 has a built-in powerful IR Blaster (and there is also one external IR blaster is included to be used if needed) but Sony NSZ-GT1 didn't have a built-in IR Blaster, so they included two external IR blasters instead.


    ^^^
    Sony's NSZ-GS7 (Bluetooth) remote should control Sony NSZ-GT1 via HDMI-CEC (BRAVIA Sync) to switch input, control volume & turn On/Off (BDP & maybe more) but as far as how to control GTV/Chrome not sure yet, however having both boxes (specially when the second generation box gets ICS Firmware update) one as a GTV-box and the other as a BD-Player would make sense justifying the upgrade.

    Btw, you need Sony NSZ-GS7 in the loop (for HDMI-CEC) - incase you were referring to use only the remote.
     
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    I only hope that Sony and Vizio will keep their chrome browsers and flash updated to current internet standards.There are lots of steaming devices out there but having an updated internet access will go a long ways on the success/failure of GTV! Know what I mean "Jelly Bean"Maybe one of these days they'll get the set top box done right.I love my Roku but they had growing pains too.But I for one don't really care or want the expense of having a laptop/computer always hooked up to my TV.
     
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    I was was hoping to keep my current box and just upgrade remotes for it. Looks unlikely. For how I want to set things up for my rooms I'll need 3 GMTV boxes anyway. I'll just buy 2 new sony bluray players and use the old one in the lesser used room.
     
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    this looks like it will be a good step up from the revue (I had 2, they both just got nuked by a lightning strike), I'm just trying to figure out if there is anything it DOESN'T do that that the ReVue did, and if there is any option for streaming HD content that doesn't require the host system to run extra software or do the processing. (would love streaming like my o!play does)
     
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    I have two Revues and sure hope they don't get fried. The only possible negative I can think of for this Sony compared to the Revue is the controller, you might prefer the full sized keyboard, other than that possibility it sure looks to me like the Sony has it beat. Even the first generation Sony box easily beats the Revue, with the exception of the keyboard for my needs. I like the Revue fullsized keyboard over the old Sony remote.
     
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    glad i read this.

    i was thinking vizio box all the way until i noticed the built in IR Blasters didnt exist on the Vizio.

    I got so use to that via the Revue that i am not sure if i can go away from it...
     
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    Sony includes three digital movies from Google Play/YouTube (a $45 value) with Sony NSZ-GS7 (in-stock) - here
     
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    Got the new Sony NSZ-GS7. Right after the installation a new system-update prompted & downloaded, all went smooth. The remote is handy, the device is fast and the settings got tons of options. Seems like they've done their homework (kudos).

    I streamed few movies and shows from Netflix, Max-Go & others, played with box for a while.
    Here is what I found so far,

    1. A new Netflix App,
      • Includes "Netflix" and "Netflix just for Kids".
      • HD content video support in 1080p resolution & adaptive-streaming - colors & PQ look great.
      • HD 5.1 content audio support via HDMI in "5.1 Dolby Digital Plus" (5.1DD+) bitstream (pass-through) with global-settings options to transcode 5.1DD+ to either "5.1DD" bitstream or to "5.1PCM" - it doesn't seem to be that many streaming players out there that offer all three audio-out (5.1DD+/5.1DD/5.1PCM) options from Netflix & support any old/new AVR.
      • HD 5.1 content audio support via Optical in "5.1 Dolby Digital" (5.1DD) bitstream with global-settings options to output "5.1PCM".
      • HD & SD Stereo content audio support via HDMI or Optical in "2ch PCM" with sound simulation support (ex. PLII & Neo:6) - not like Revue's 7.1 issues.
      • Netflix App loading time is about the same as before but once it's loaded the pages/thumbnails/icons display instantly.
    2. Max-Go website streaming quality was excellent but anyway there is no native App for stb's available from Max-Go yet.
    3. The built-in IR blaster works perfectly as well as "Control for HDMI" (to control TV/AVR/STB's).
    4. The unit supports "Auto,1080p,1080i &720" - "Wide mode" (Aspect picture size) - video setting option for "YCbCr(4:4:4)/RGB" over HDMI - "IP content noise removal" (for low bitrate) - "Noise reduction" (for random noise)- "AV sync" (for Lip-sync adjustment) - "24p output" (for 1080p/24p over HDMI).
    5. The unit also supports "Auto standby" (ex. turns Off after 30min) that's beside screensaver option.
    6. Multi-tasking is very smooth on this unit, I tried hard to crash it with no success ... then finally i got the "shockwave Flash Crash!" (on a flash-site), however after I clicked on the [Reload] button the error was gone and the video resumed instantly (didn't have to restart anything - as I recall the [Reload] used to say [Restart] (with FW3.1). So, it could be a different error or it's a new soft landing).

    link .
    7. I connected the BD-Player to the new Sony via HDMI-in then played-back the following soundtracks:
    Disk
    Audio-in soundtracks
    Sony NSZ-GS7
    Audio-out
    Video display
    BD
    DVD
    BD
    DVD
    DVD

    with 5.1 DTS-HD Master
    with 5.1 DTS
    with 5.1 Dolby TrueHD
    with 5.1 Dolby Digital
    with 2.0 Dolby Digital

    transcode
    transcode
    transcode
    bitstream (pass through)
    bitstream (pass through)
    5.1 PCM
    5.1 PCM
    5.1 PCM
    5.1 Dolby Digital
    2.0 Dolby Digital
    1080p/24p (native)
    1080p/60 (upscale)
    1080p/24p (native)
    1080p/60 (upscale)
    1080p/60 (upscale)
    * BD-Player menu audio-out settings: [HDMI output > priority], [Audio (HDMI) > Auto] & [BD Audio Setting > Direct (bitstream)].
    * Sony NSZ-GS7 menu audio-out settings: [Audio output (HDMI) > Auto] & [Audio pass through > On].
    So, it's less likely the BD player is doing the transcoding.



    In short, from what I've seen so fare, it's a keeper.
     
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