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LG Reportedly At Odds With Google Over GTV - Now Working On WebOS-Powered Smart TV

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    LG reportedly working on Open webOS-powered smart TV | The Verge (click for full article)

    By Sam Byford on October 24, 2012 10:14 pm


    "Google TV hasn't taken off despite LG's best efforts, and now it seems the Korean manufacturer may be pursuing other options.


    According to webOS Nation, Gram (the reborn incarnation of Palm) and LG are working together on a new smart TV powered by Open webOS. While webOS would have a lot of catching up to do before it could become a credible smart TV platform, apps such as Netflix, YouTube, and Pandora are apparently being rebuilt for the Enyo framework.


    WebOS Nation's sources say that LG isn't "comfortable with Google's terms for using Google TV," as well as having understandable concerns over the platform's adoption rate and the threat of Apple entering the marketplace.


    WebOS would be an unorthodox way to counter these fears, but with the smart TV market still in a nascent phase it's possible any roll of the dice could be the right one. LG and Gram reportedly want to unveil the Open webOS TV off at CES 2013 - we'll certainly be interested to see if that comes to pass."
     
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    Open webOS-powered HDTVs said to be on the way from... LG? - Engadget (click for full article)

    By Richard Lawler posted Oct 25th 2012 2:37AM


    "If you were wondering what was next for webOS now that it's gone all open source on us, webOS Nation chimes in with word that Gram is working with LG to bring it to connected HDTVs.


    Several names from the HP / Gram team are dropped as being involved in the effort, which reportedly was under way even before HP revealed it would spin the project off as an independent. Of course, when we actually saw Open webOS 1.0 it was already stretching to fill the space of an HP TouchSmart computer screen (project architect Steve Winston specifically mentioned hotel kiosks as a possibility, a market LG is all over) so it makes sense that larger displays have been a target.


    With LG supposedly both looking to replace its existing NetCast smart TV platform and unhappy with Google TV based on its rate of adoption and Google's terms, engineers have been working to port the software to its dual-core L9 chipset. In the past LG has pursued voice and motion control, the aforementioned Google TV integration and even Plex support to make its smart TVs more appealing, and has founded the Smart TV Alliance for cross platform apps. We only have to wait until CES 2013 to see if webOS is next up to power its efforts, stay tuned."
     
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    Wow, I hope Google and LG can fix this and get LG to stick with Google TV. I don't know anything about the terms or why LG finds the terms unacceptable, I only know Google TV is really struggling and losing LG would be a big problem.
     
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    LG Open webOS smart TV planned for CES 2013 as Google TV sidelined - SlashGear (click for full article)

    Chris Davies, Oct 25th 2012

    From the article:

    "Although both LG and HP apparently signed an agreement some time ago - back in June, in fact - to collaborate on the project, there are still some wrinkles yet to be ironed out. Most obvious (and likely to actively frustrate users) is boot time, with Open webOS taking some time to load up; tablet and phone users might be willing to suffer such a delay, but those settling down on the couch are probably not.


    To address that, LG's L9 motherboards - which use a dualcore processor, and are found at the heart of existing LG smart TVs - have been sent over to HP's engineers for testing and trialling software tweaks. What could end up being the solution, it's said, is a TV that only shuts off the display when put into standby, with the processor actually remaining on in the background for a subsequent instant-resume.


    Hardware isn't the only challenge, however. Open webOS would replace LG's NetCast platform, and needs smart TV-focused apps to cater for that challenge. Netflix is one cited example, with a player apparently being build in Enyo (the platform's application framework), as well as other web-connected widgets and apps for YouTube, Pandora, and other services.


    As for why LG is pushing ahead with Open webOS rather than sticking with Google TV as it previously announced, it's a complex one. The Korean company is apparently uncomfortable with Google's demands for using its platform, and turned off by its slow adoption overall; meanwhile, the ever-present specter of Apple and the longstanding chatter of an Apple smart TV has pressured LG into taking precautionary steps of its own.


    Those steps will need to be shared with HP/Gram, of course, but with the $1.2bn acquisition of Palm still yet to produce tangible benefits to pacify shareholders, Open webOS poses more potential for tinkering and modification."
     
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    I came across the following explanation in a CNET article:

    "According to WebOS Nation, LG was choosing between WebOS and Google TV, a platform that launched in 2010, but never truly gained its footing. LG reportedly chose WebOS because of concerns over Google's desire to exercise some control over the look and feel of its television platform. With WebOS, LG has free rein to do what it wants."


    LG at work on WebOS-based HDTV, report says | Mobile - CNET News

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    Also I came across this:

    "SmartHouse understands that LG wants to deliver advertising to their own customers via their smart TV's, but the conditions of the Google TV licence prevent them from doing this."

    http://smarthouse.com.au/TVs_And_Large_Display/Industry/F6S7G8Q5
     
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    I can't imagine WebOS is going to do any better as a smart TV operating system than it has done as a smart phone and table operating system, that is to say it won't have any marketshare. This just seems absurd to me.
     
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    I'm wondering how apparently Samsung was able to negotiate what appears to be a "special deal" for their upcoming GTV device.

    According to the following article (see link below) it seems to me that this proposed upcoming Samsung TV is kind of a "hybrid GTV". In that there are only 3 GTV apps combined with Samsung's own Smart Hub apps. The GTV apps are 1) Chrome, 2) YouTube and 3) Google Play Store

    Also the Chrome browser in this Samsung GTV doesn't support Flash.

    It's definitely not an "official" Google TV - but rather it's a Samsung Smart TV combined with some GTV functionality.


    Samsung adds Google TV to its Smart TVs: Chrome, YouTube, and Google Play store (video) | The Verge



    Hmmm, interesting:
     
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