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Google's VP9 Codec Nearly Done; YouTube Will Use It

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    Google's VP9 video codec nearly done; YouTube will use it | Internet & Media - CNET News (click for full article)

    by Stephen Shankland - May 10, 2013

    Summary: One of the biggest video sites on the Net will use Google's next-generation video compression technology after it's fully defined on June 17.


    -- "Google plans to finish defining its VP9 video codec on June 17, providing a date on which the company will be able to start using the next-generation compression technology in Chrome and on YouTube.

    "Last week, we hosted over 100 guests at a summit meeting for VP9, the WebM Project's next-generation open video codec. We were particularly happy to welcome our friends from YouTube, who spoke about their plans to support VP9 once support lands in Chrome," Matt Frost, senior business product manager for the WebM Project, said in a blog post Friday.

    WebM is Google's project for freeing Web video from royalty constraints; the WebM technology at present combines VP8 with the Vorbis audio codec. Google unveiled WebM three years ago at the Google I/O show, but VP8 remains a relative rarity compared to today's dominant video codec, H.264.

    Because VP9 transmits video more efficiently than the current VP8 codec, the move will be a major milestone for Google and potential Web-video allies such as Mozilla that hope to see royalty-free video compression technology spread across the Web. "
     
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    Hmmm - according to the following HTML5 browser test (see link below) - my Logitech Revue Chrome browser doesn't support WebM. I hope that on current GTV devices VP9 codec support is something that Google can add by way of a software update?

    The HTML5 test - How well does your browser support HTML5?


    Also on the YouTube HTML5 testtube version - it says that WebM is not supported on my GTV Chrome browser:

    http://www.youtube.com/html5


    Does the Marvell Armada 1500 processor support hardware acceleration for WebM? If not - the best current GTV devices would be able to do is a software decode (providing Google updates the current GTV Chrome browser to support VP9). Knowing Google YouTube will still function in the GTV app (either with Flash or VP9) - not so sure about the GTV Chrome browser though.

    IMO YouTube will also still be supporting Flash during a "transitional period". They wouldn't immediately kill Flash - because VP9 is new and won't be supported on some devices initially. Anyway this is likely to still be a ways off from actually launching....
     
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    I'm thinking that after the GTV Jellybean update the GTV Chrome browser will support WebM and the VP9 codec. Although there won't be support for VP9 hardware acceleration in current GTV devices - that probably won't be a big deal because VP9 streams high quality video at lower bit rates (without a loss in quality) compared to other codecs. That is something that the new upcoming H.265 video codec does also (next generation compression technology) - but YouTube likes VP9 better because it's an "open" codec based on HTML5. (H.265 will require royalties).

    Google Enables VP9 Video Codec In Chromium - Slashdot (click for full article)

    From the article:

    ""Last month, Google revealed that it was planning to finish defining its VP9 video codec on June 17 (today), after which it will start using the next-generation compression technology in Chrome and on YouTube. The company is wasting no time: it has already enabled the free video compression standard by default in the latest Chromium build."
     
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    Google Finishes Defining Its VP9 Video Codec, Adds it to Chromium (click for full article)

    by Emil Protalinski - June 17, 2013

    "Last month, Google revealed that it was planning to finish defining its VP9 video codec on June 17 (today), after which it will start using the next-generation compression technology in Chrome and on YouTube. The company is wasting no time: it has already enabled the free video compression standard by default in the latest Chromium build.


    The addition was first noted by developer and Google open-source Chromium evangelist Fran├žois Beaufort. He points to a Chromium code review with the following short but succinct description: "Remove VP9 flag, and enable VP9 support by default."


    VP9 is the successor to VP8, both of which fall under Google's WebM project of freeing Web codecs from royalty constraints. Despite the fact that Google unveiled WebM three years ago at its I/O conference, VP8 is still rarely used when compared to H.264, today's most popular video codec.


    As Beaufort explains, the main advantage of VP9 for users is that it's 50 percent more efficient than H.264, meaning that you'll use half the bandwidth on average when watching a video on the internet. Yet that doesn't take H.265 into account, the successor to H.264 that offers comparable video quality at half the number of bits per second and also requires its implementers to pay patent royalties."
     
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    Google I/O 2013 - WebM and the New VP9 Open Video Codec:
     
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    Do the experts have predictions? Will VP9 become the standard or H.265? Will existing Google TV and Roku players be able to handle whatever becomes the norm? Will there be no norm, just a whole bunch of codecs, some efficient, some not so efficient? I have read some about this but don't really know what to expect.
     

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