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Consumer Group Slams Google's Orwellian "Intrusion-is-Privacy" Policy

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    CatfishRivers Well-Known Member

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    Consumer Group Slams Google's Orwellian "Intrusion-is-Privacy" Policy; Demands An Opt-out Option - MarketWatch (click for full article)

    "EAST LOS ANGELES, Calif., Jan. 26, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Consejo de Latinos Unidos, a national consumer advocacy group and public charity which educates and assists Latinos and others, slammed Google today for utilizing the consolidation of its numerous privacy policies as a jumping board to intrude on the privacy and trample the civil liberties of private individuals with no opt-out option.


    "Google's insidious and deceptive action to force hundreds of millions of Android, Gmail, Google TV, and Internet users to be tracked by Google and have their personal information stored by Google with no opt-out option is disgraceful and predatory," declared K.B. Forbes, Executive Director of the Consejo. "We are unequivocally demanding that Google immediately amend its Orwellian 'Intrusion-is-Privacy' Policy and include an opt-out option before March 1st." On Tuesday, Google announced it would consolidate over 70 different privacy policies and implement a single universal privacy policy with no opt-out option on March 1st.


    Forbes noted, "Initially, many Google products and services, including Android platform-based Smartphones, were forcing consumers to establish Google accounts before becoming fully-operational. Now these private individuals and millions of other consumers across the globe are having the rules changed and forced upon them with no opt-out option, no means to protect their privacy, no way to say 'no' and 'mind your own business' to Larry and Sergey."


    According to Forbes, the Consejo will file complaints with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission, numerous state consumer protection agencies, and European authorities if Google does not include an opt-out option. In addition, the group will seek legal recourse for what appears to be "deceptive and predatory business practices" by the Internet giant, and find avenues to protect the civil liberties of consumers from Google's unyielding encroachment.


    "Using blatant doublespeak, Google's public relations people are trying to sell this intrusion-is-privacy policy as some kind of streamlined consolidation that protects privacy. In reality, with no opt-out, Google does the opposite: strip consumers naked of any privacy," Forbes added.
     
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    Sure there is an opt out, just don't use Google services that track the information. I see people whining about this all of the time, I don't care and see no way that Google can provide free services without acquiring data that allows making some money to provide the service. Maybe give an opt out option but require those that opt out to pay an additional fee to use the services? Of all the things I have to worry about this life, this sure isn't one of them.
     
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    The only information that can be collected can't really be used much other than provide me with a more tailored service anyways. Actually if I had to watch advertisements, then hopefully the data collected would result in presenting product and service information which I'm actually interested. Instead of being subjected to a commercial of a young woman and her daughter talking about that unfresh feeling.
     
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    Google Privacy Changes: What Do They Mean To You? | WebProNews
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    "Google announced this week that it is rolling out a new, main privacy policy that covers the majority of its products. The company is consolidating over 60 privacy notices into the main privacy policy. It's keeping a few separate for "legal and other reasons".

    "Regulators globally have been calling for shorter, simpler privacy policies-and having one policy covering many different products is now fairly standard across the web," Google says.


    Google users have been receiving emails about the changes:"
     
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    If consumers are expected to allow pop up ads based on this then the end of google is near! People will opt out allright... they will shun everything google including android.
     
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    Lack of content access would be cause the end of Google TV not advertising. Using advertisement to help monetize the content that is already available is pretty much how most sites can get away without charging you a subscription fee. Heck, that's how the distribution groups are able to provide "free" over the air television. Most, if not all, of the maintenance and salaries involved with these services are actually paid by advertising dollars.

    The reason why content owners are shunning devices like Google TV as it is, is because Multiple Service Operators (MSO) like Comcast, Time Warner, and Dish Network are willing to pay a high premium for exclusive access to their content. If their content is too freely available / accessible then its worth depreciates. The current revenue models for internet streaming are just not competitive enough for most content owners to accept the difference paid by the MSOs. That's why services like Hulu Plus uses both ad revenue and subscription fees for adequate compensation.

    You have to understand that most of the "free world" is based on capitalism not socialism or communism. Everyone is trying to make sure that they are well compensated for the products and services that they provide. So, if people are stupid enough to shun Google or any other company because they're hosting services through advertising concessions then that's their loss.
     
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    New Google privacy policies have some skeptical | WDAY | Fargo, ND (click for full article)

    "Effective today, Google is revamping its privacy policy, hoping to give its users a more personalized experience. The new privacy policy has dozens of Attorneys General up in arms.

    Thirty-four thousand searches per second. Google has triumphed as the number one search engine over the past decade. And the information it captures may surprise you. The company already tracks your search queries and keeps tabs on where you are through the Google-backed Android Smartphone.


    Now it's combing all of its other platforms. From YouTube to Gmail to Google Plus - all products will work together, sharing all of your information.


    Dylan Bradt - Fargo: "Look up weird videos on YouTube and stuff, not a whole lot of privacy issues, but it's like why do they need that?"


    Sonny Clemenson - Fargo: "Just more reasons for them to hack our stuff, I just don't think it's needed."


    A concern similarly expressed by thirty six Attorneys General who signed this letter to CEO Larry Page expressing their concerns over the new policy.


    In its defense, Google says it is trying to collect information to provide better services for all users. But much of that information is returned in the form of advertisements - the main source of the companies $38 billion in annual revenue.

    Leah Pochant - Fargo: "I don't like the advertising anyways, if I want to know something about an item, I'll go search it. I don't want advertising pushed on me all the time."


    Google says it gives people the option of changing the information tied to your Google account by using its Dashboard feature. You can view and edit your ad preferences.


    For these three dozen Attorneys General it's not enough, writing, "Google has not only failed to provide an "opt-in" option, but has failed to provide a meaningful "opt-out" option as well."


    For now, the policy is in effect, like it or not, tracking every single one of its 3-billion search queries per day.


    There will still be separate, more restrictive privacy policies for some Google products, like it's Chrome Web Browser and its payment processor Wallet."
     
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