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  1. Travel

    Travel Active Member

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    It remains in your GoogleTV apps section (and works normally) if you already have it installed.

    Don't know whether this (1Channel being off the Play Store) is temporary, but IceFilms (which shares the app with 1Channel) is temporarily down, but announced that it has located, and is going to a new server. Don't know whether IceFilms will be up and running again on the GoogleTV app, once IceFilms is launched on it's new server though.

    Click the forum. Then click "general" board for the discussion.

    icefilms.info temp - page
     
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    I pay $3 for the app back then when i have googleTV box..... now it ask for more money when i try to stream movie.

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  3. CatfishRivers

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    I "forced" Google to remove 1Channel from the Play Store because that app is a scam and I hate that piece of sh*t. Here is the link to the Google Public Policy Blog (from December 18th) - where my strategically placed comments ultimately led to the removal of the app. (The 1channel app was removed from the Play Store on the say same day that my comments appeared on their blog):

    Google Public Policy Blog The MPAA 8217 s Attempt to Revive SOPA Through A State Attorney General

    *Read all of the comments below that blog. In the comments section I'm "Jack".

    I took a beating in the blog comments but I got exactly what I wanted -:) Obviously I was spot-on with my comments or Google wouldn't of flinched. I picked the perfect time & place to "lay it on thick" - and I caught Google off-guard. If you don't like it then it's tough cookies - besides you can still use the app and the future of Android TV will be better in the long run without that app in the Play Store.

    It's permanent unless the app developer gets rid of all the pirated content - which is doubtful because then nobody will want the app.
     
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    Aren't you the same sanctimonious "moralist" who had his porn collection links banned from Symbaloo?

    A movie streaming free site is merely sharing, just like making a VHS tape and giving it to someone. If someone uploads a movie DVD for free access, that they already bought, they own it and can do whatever they want with it.

    The pirates are the content producers and cable companies who sell the content at least three times over.

    Once a book is bought, the book publisher can't re-charge every time that book is read. But the electronic media thinks that they can do just that with movies and TV shows.

    All you're doing is supporting the "Hollywood" price gougers takeover of the internet, to use as their own, controlled cash cow.

    Also, as of last night, "IceFilms" is back up and running on the "1Channel" app.
     
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    CatfishRivers Well-Known Member

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    Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah - I'm not going to waste my time getting into the flawed argument with you about why it's 'cool' to steal content. I publicly called Google out on their hypocritical behavior and it worked like a charm. (Google doesn't need to be spouting off in a public policy blog about how they're doing everything that they possibly can to fight piracy - while at the same time they're raking in $$$money from a scam app that they promote as a "Featured App For Google TV"). That was so hypocritical and 'dumb' it was laughable. They needed to be called out for that.

    1Channel is gone from the PlayStore for good so get over it dude. Now tell me what other pirate apps you use so I can get those removed too, Hee-Hee- -;) If you have a belief that Google should allow 1Channel in their Play Store tell it to Google. It's time to move on.........
     
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    I just told you why it isn't stealing. Buying a DVD isn't stealing, it's the buyer's property to do with it what they wish.

    Does your porn collection show up on a Google search? Maybe you could work on that, too.
     
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    Blah, blah blah, blah. Please don't let your tears fall onto your GTV keyboard - we wouldn't want it to get ruined LOL
     
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    We'll take that as, no, you haven't contacted Google about your porn collection. Isn't it Google that took it down, off Symbaloo?

    And what "tears," Google is now obviously conforming to the price gouging content providers because of "AndroidTV" which will never compete with Roku, AppleTV, or even FireTV in sales. Google TV is over, anyway, and there are always third party apps, anyway.

    IceFilms is back up on the 1Channel GoogleTV app as of last night, btw. Go "work on it."

    Were you known as "the squealer" in the first grade, btw? :)
     
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    It's over dude. Whining about it on this thread and hurling insults isn't going to bring the app back. Time to let it go and move on dude.....
     
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    You mean, hurling facts. And perhaps you haven't read your own snarky comments.

    And, I have the app and so does everyone else who has it already installed. And it can be obtained elsewhere, not just the Play Store.

    So, it looks like you were called "the squealer" in the first grade.
     
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    Sorry but unfortunately I don't deem you intelligent enough to waste my time trying to carry on a 'debate' with you. This will be my final post on this thread - but before I go I will reiterate one more time that a big part of why I did what I did is because I can't stand hypocritical organizations:

    *** (Google doesn't need to be spouting off in a public policy blog about how they're doing everything that they possibly can to fight piracy - while at the same time they're raking in $$$money from a scam app that they promote as a "Featured App For Google TV"). That was so hypocritical and 'dumb' it was laughable. They needed to be called out for that. ***

    If you use other apps to get what you want or apps not available in the play store that's your business. I don't really think these apps are proper - but I'm not your daddy and I can't tell you what to do. But at the very least Google doesn't need to be making money by promoting these apps in the Play Store. It's just not right - there's no two ways around it. If it was "right" - the app would still be in the Play Store. The proof is in the pudding.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Now this is a comment that I had written in the comments section of the December 18th Google Public Policy Blog - (addressed to another commenter there):

    *** OK hypothetical here. Why don't you spend your hard earned time and dollars and create something like a movie. (Let's suppose that your livelihood will depend on sales of this movie). OK now I'll make arrangements with a bunch of people to download illegal copies of your movie to shady web hosting companies overseas. Then I'll make an app for it and sell it for money. Now everyone gets to see your movie for free so they won't bother paying you for it. And I'll make money for being a 'sleazeball' app developer. Gee I'm glad that you're so understanding! You're really a cool guy in that you don't mind getting ripped off. ***

    Anybody that thinks this is a 'cool' thing to do has the mentality of a 'moron'. End of story.......
    And whether you disagree with me, insult me, or have a cow of some sort about it - I could really care less. I got what I wanted and that POS app is gone from the Play Store for good. End of story -:)

    *Oh - and as for as me previously having a Symbaloo web mix with Adult content - I am of the belief that consenting adults of legal age should have the freedom of choice to view adult content without being censored. I don't put that into the same category as 'theft' and 'hypocrisy'. No Google didn't ask me to remove the adult web mix - Symbaloo "censored" me and removed it.
     
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    Lol, it's you who's obviously having the "cow" over it. My original post merely reported the facts without editorializing, and it was you who burst-on with the unprovoked, emotional indignation.

    Second, if Google wanted to "stop the pirates" they'd lobby for legislation to open up the internet and stop the closed, unfair business practices of the content producers who think they have the right to price-out any competition outside of their cabal. The cable companies should be regulated like utility companies: just keep the wires working and be limited to charging only maintenance fees to the public. The real pirates now want to price gouge the internet.

    But you're not intelligent enough to understand any of this. You just believe anything that the media monopoly tells you.

    As far as your charge of "Google hypocrisy," you aspire to be a porn portal. How do you explain that?
     
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    these seem to be confusing the point that there's a difference between what an app "does" and how it's used -- NOT all uses of the app are "illegal" (whatever that means where you are -- different laws apply in different parts of the world). I use it for downloading TV episodes from North America -- e.g., Lost Girl has never been seen here in New Zealand, and probably never will be -- yet one of our ISPs, not invested in selling content, has explicitly approved such downloading using its services. Arguably watching Lost Girl in this way promotes profit from other material from syfy, LG's actors/actresses -- boosting related "profits" for those involved, rather than the reverse. BUT the dev seems to have pulled the app from all sources -- pity imho as it has a "competitor" (TVP), also pulled from Play, but freely available elsewhere, that is nowhere near as functional, for "proper uses".
     
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    How has an ISP in Australia explicitly approved downloading copyright protected US TV programming without having any rights to do so?

    The argument that boosts related profits is rather silly but irrelevant in any event. Yes, this app also has legal purposes but if you think anybody will believe that it is being used for legal purposes when there are better options for the legal uses, you are rather naive. A crack pipe has legal uses, blowing soap bubbles, smoking tobacco, etc. but I have known of exactly the same number of people that use a crack pipe for legal purposes as I have known that use the 1Channel app exclusively for legal purposes, that number is zero.
     
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    It's been an ISP in New Zealand that's "approved" it -- Slinghshot, ISP but not content provider -- because there are no NZ laws prohibiting the use of internet services for such purposes in these circumstances -- I'm less familiar, these days, with Aussie law, despite having an Aussie email address (came here 10 years ago) -- even discussion of such apps is "inappropriate", and I'm not promoting their use -- the Wikipedia page on this is quite good in discussing these issues, but your response confuses "legal" with "morally right" -- are there better apps for such purposes? like what? DuckieTV? but then you're advocating using torrents so ......

    in the UK the biggest threat to copyright breaches is other apps -- look at all the problems TVP has -- caused not by the "morally right" but by TV networks protecting their own "hold" on content

    what are the reasons for limiting distribution -- one that's used is that you are hurting the "content owners" / developers by restricting their profits -- hence, it's not "silly" to follow this argument to it's "limits", in reverse

    but further discussion risks the "promotion" of such apps -- NOT what I want -- but, cynicism aside, yes there are some who use the apps for strictly "legal" purposes -- go figure!
     
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    The only legal uses for 1Channel I am aware of, accessing content that is in the public domain or made available for free online by the rights owner, and the app is just one way to access that content. In my opinion, not having ever used the app but accessing that very content by browser or native app for the sites offering that content, all would work better than the 1Channel app in my opinion. I have read about the app and looked at it and it was clear to me, it is a kludge for accessing legal content, incomplete and not useful at all.
     
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    RustyRiley, ChrisG is obviously not a lawyer, and certainly not an authority on international copyrights law.

    Google has had the native app "1channel" as a featured app until recently, and rest assured that Google has a legal department with copyrights lawyers.

    Google didn't pull the "1Channel" app from the play store because of legal considerations (if there were legal problems with the app, they wouldn't have had it in the first place) they pulled it because they want to gain favor with the mainstream content providers for their failing "AndroidTV" platform.
     
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    to each their own, what works in one location, doesn't ne
    I think everyone "potentially" interested in using such apps is obligated to make sure they are informed of ALL the issues involved -- not easy! As I said, from memory I found the Wikipedia page useful, but there's a mountain of other stuff out there. Becoming better informed certainly helped me correct some old, bad, habits, including support for one such app which actively promotes downloading movies --- definitely NOT OK by any set of reasonable criteria imho, though not all countries believe this clearly -- a glaring weakness in those countries' policies imho, for which they're "paying", or will be, in international markets.
     

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